Hi all, thought this may be some use to anyone who needs to get a design they want turned into an outline….i get any pic then put it into photoshop…step 1 get your design on photoshop..step 2 click image at top of the page select mode then select grayscale youll be asked to discard color info select o.k step 3 select filter then scroll down to sketch then select photocopy…then slide the arrows to where you want & hey presto you will have a line drawing that you can use as an outline……..you may all already know this method but what the fuck it may help some people…certainly helps me loads……i,d be interested to know peoples feedback if it helps them…:D