#117542
kittykat200
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@kittykat200

for someone who is arguing freedom of speech and personal opinion you are certinaly “anti” a lot of other people’s beliefs. that in itself is discriminatory. if you’re going to take a “live and let live” attitude, then surely, ETHICALLY you have to accept that someone may be disgusted by tattoos and therefore not want to employ you. just because their opinion is different doesnt mean that they are wrong zorba. if i was employing waiter/ress staff and a kid came in with a swastica on the side of their face i honestly wouldnt employ them because my customers would be so offended that i assure you they wouldnt come back. in the same way i wouldnt seek legal/financial advice from someone wearing shorts and t-shirt in the office because to be honest you want to be left feeling at ease that the person dealing with this important thing is a professional who is taking it seriously. shorts and t-shirt dont stop them being good at their job but unfortunately we dont know how good someone is until we work with them.

i also have to say that a statement such as “i dont believe in morals only ethics” is ridiculous, just because you believe that ethics should be valued over someone’s personal morals doesnt mean they dont exist. i quite like my morals thanks very much!

rant over, you can carry on bashing each other now, this thread was blocking my notfications feed lol 😀

#117607
BertNaked
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@bertnaked
Quote:
i wouldnt seek legal/financial advice from someone wearing shorts and t-shirt in the office because to be honest you want to be left feeling at ease that the person dealing with this important thing is a professional who is taking it seriously. shorts and t-shirt dont stop them being good at their job but unfortunately we dont know how good someone is until we work with them.

So, a heavily tattooed person with FIST FUCK on his knuckles and ink on his neck / throat, dressed up in a nice marineblue suit, silk tie, shiny shoes, leather belt, watch. Do you want to seek legal/financial from him?

#117696
kittykat200
Participant
@kittykat200
BertNaked;102823 wrote:
So, a heavily tattooed person with FIST FUCK on his knuckles and ink on his neck / throat, dressed up in a nice marineblue suit, silk tie, shiny shoes, leather belt, watch. Do you want to seek legal/financial from him?

no… back to my orignial point about the swastica on the face lol i was simply creating another reference point i.e. looks count. the reason supermodels are slim and gorgeous is because no one is gonna buy a couture gown from the morbidly obese woman with acne. its a sad world but its just life. The point being we make the choice to be tattooed but we cant force others to put up with them. its just life 🙂 x

#117984
American Infidel
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@american-infidel

Saw an article the other day that made a good point. Check out the title then look at the picture…..

“No Tattooed teachers Need Apply: One School District’s Ban on Visible Tattoos”

But….but you said “no you cant be hired”? that could be the one to save your life one day….

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#118119
DanTheMedic
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@danthemedic

Some good and valid points here. Which kinda brings me to my dilemma.

I have a half sleeve that I’m kinda toying with either going 3/4, full or ending at half (easily covered by my uniform).

I work for the ambulance service in the UK and whilst it was on the requirements for my pre-employment that the service didn’t condone tattoos visible that could be deemed by the public as offensive, there are many of my colleagues who have full sleeves and still wear the uniform. My sleeve is currently jap koi with cherry blossom and chrysanths and water… hardly offensive. They haven’t said outright though that your contract will be terminated if you do have one done.

My uniform consists of a elbow-length polo shirt or for those with sleeve tattoos, they recommend long-sleeve shirts. The problem with this is that our role, as with nursing staff in hospitals is supposed to be ‘bare below elbows’ – that said, we still wear watches and people have full sleeves.

I don’t want to jeapordise my future progression in this industry as its something I’ve just started, by making a bad call judgment on going full-sleeve ink.

I’d be interested to hear from anyone else in this predicament.

#118120
DanTheMedic
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@danthemedic

So a visible tattoo is in some sectors an employment ‘no no’ but yet if I had a full thickness burn on one of my arms as a result of an accident…

What about if your had a tattoo over a burn that made the sight of the original burn less stomach churning than the Freddy Kruger effect that was there before.

#118125
BertNaked
Participant
@bertnaked

A tattoo is a tattoo is a tattoo is a tattoo!

If they don’t want to have you because you have a tattoo, why the heck do they want to listen to any reasons for having one?

#118132
Aussie_Al
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@aussie_al
DanTheMedic;103389 wrote:
My uniform consists of a elbow-length polo shirt or for those with sleeve tattoos, they recommend long-sleeve shirts. The problem with this is that our role, as with nursing staff in hospitals is supposed to be ‘bare below elbows’ – that said, we still wear watches and people have full sleeves.

I don’t want to jeapordise my future progression in this industry as its something I’ve just started, by making a bad call judgment on going full-sleeve ink.

I’d be interested to hear from anyone else in this predicament.

I am not in your predicament but If I was you I would not go full sleeves if you know it is not acceptable in your job

Why not work on your chest and back?

#118151
American Infidel
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@american-infidel

Thats funny that your having such a problem being a EMT or paramedic because you wanting to get a tattoo sleeve. I have a friend who also does that and he said he didnt get his full sleeve until AFTER he became one.he said they only said no before he got his certification. then after they said do whatever you want. Now hes an EMT and has full sleeves lol

#120728
kcgreyhound
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@kcgreyhound

I have been teaching high school for 14 years. I’m now ready to get a full sleeve, but I’m hesitant because of my occupation. I have worn 0g ear plugs at work for all of my career, and never a word has been said about it. I also wear a labret piercing…no comments. Sometimes students will ask, “Do they let you wear that at work?”

I am cautious that a full sleeve is pushing the envelope a bit too far. We have no written policy in place about tattoos or piercings. What do you all think? I sure as hell don’t want to start wearing long sleeve shirts daily and I don’t want to ask permission. Your thoughts?

#120730
anonymous
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@anonymous
kcgreyhound;106344 wrote:
I have been teaching high school for 14 years. I’m now ready to get a full sleeve, but I’m hesitant because of my occupation. I have worn 0g ear plugs at work for all of my career, and never a word has been said about it. I also wear a labret piercing…no comments. Sometimes students will ask, “Do they let you wear that at work?”

I am cautious that a full sleeve is pushing the envelope a bit too far. We have no written policy in place about tattoos or piercings. What do you all think? I sure as hell don’t want to start wearing long sleeve shirts daily and I don’t want to ask permission. Your thoughts?

My wife has several friends that are elementary school teachers and my wife recently went back to school to pursue a degree in secondary education. Her friends, professors, and counselor have all told her that she will be required to cover her ink. Ultimately, it’s up to your boss, the superintendent, and so forth, but I think it’s likely you will be asked/expected to cover it up.

American Infidel;103426 wrote:
Thats funny that your having such a problem being a EMT or paramedic because you wanting to get a tattoo sleeve. I have a friend who also does that and he said he didnt get his full sleeve until AFTER he became one.he said they only said no before he got his certification. then after they said do whatever you want. Now hes an EMT and has full sleeves lol

A buddy of mine is an EMT and he has a relatively small tattoo of a straight razor that extends from his forearm to outer bicep. He is required to wear long sleeves at all times at work. It all depends on who you work for I suppose.

#120838
bluey
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@bluey
kcgreyhound;106344 wrote:
I have been teaching high school for 14 years. I’m now ready to get a full sleeve, but I’m hesitant because of my occupation. I have worn 0g ear plugs at work for all of my career, and never a word has been said about it. I also wear a labret piercing…no comments. Sometimes students will ask, “Do they let you wear that at work?”

I am cautious that a full sleeve is pushing the envelope a bit too far. We have no written policy in place about tattoos or piercings. What do you all think? I sure as hell don’t want to start wearing long sleeve shirts daily and I don’t want to ask permission. Your thoughts?

This depends. I work in a very conservative company in IT. I have worked for numerous conservative companies, so conservative that I can’t remember the last time I haven’t worn a long sleeve shirt. It took a while to dawn on me that if I always wear long sleeve shirts I can have full sleeve tattoos. I sympathise with those that have to wear uniforms as the uniform may dictate where you are tattooed. Many teachers wear wear long sleeve business shirts if so there shouldn’t be a problem.

#120906
Kit Piper
Participant
@kit-piper
ThreeAndCounting;79112 wrote:
I work at Hastings…worked there prior to getting my very visible wrist tattoo. I felt comfortable getting this tattoo because my boss had like 5 tattoos around her wrists. Now she’s quitting and I’ll be the only one with a visible tattoo…hopefully this doesn’t come back to bite me.

But anyway, fairly big corporation and they allow them (thus far). What sucks tho is I don’t like my job long enough to stay here real long term and I wonder what will happen for me at other jobs.

Thoughts on this? For guys it’s easier to cover wrist and forearm tattoos…just wear a long-sleeve shirt to the interview. But girls generally don’t wear long-sleeve shirts to interviews–at least I don’t. Anyone else have thoughts?

I have a prominant tat on the inside of my left wrist. My workplace is of the “no visible body art” club. I have a leather cuff bracelet (bada** yet still elegant, LOL) that I wore to the interview and for the first few weeks on the job till I proved my worth. Then I stopped wearing the cuff, and no one has said anything so far about the tat.

#121074
SpideyFan
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No one is “discriminating” against anything. You guys are not being forced to get tattoos, so don’t act like a little kid when an employer doesn’t want someone inked up at their job. That is called personal responsibility. But I guess you all forgot about that and like to blame the world for all of your minor problems.

#121077
kcgreyhound
Participant
@kcgreyhound
SpideyFan;106727 wrote:
No one is “discriminating” against anything. You guys are not being forced to get tattoos, so don’t act like a little kid when an employer doesn’t want someone inked up at their job. That is called personal responsibility. But I guess you all forgot about that and like to blame the world for all of your minor problems.

dis·crim·i·nate   /v. dɪˈskrɪməˌneɪt; adj. dɪˈskrɪmənɪt/ Show Spelled [v. dih-skrim-uh-neyt; adj. dih-skrim-uh-nit] Show IPA verb, -nat·ed, -nat·ing, adjective
verb (used without object)
1. to make a distinction in favor of or against a person or thing on the basis of the group, class, or category to which the person or thing belongs rather than according to actual merit; show partiality:

By the very definition of the word, an employer who makes a distinction based on class or category (i.e., tattooed) instead of merit is discriminating.

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