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#64636
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Here it is…one final session for touch up and minor detailing…

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#64539
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Well folks…after another bloody four hours, this one is finally finished. I’m going to wait a few days to post pictures so that the color can settle in and the swelling can go down.

I must say, of all my ink, and I have a lot, this was the most painful piece. The chest is just such a surprisingly sensitive area and there are so many nerves there. The artist would be hitting me on one spot and I would actually feel it on the other side of my chest. It also didn’t help that the piece is exceptionally large and detailed. There is a lot going on in this tattoo.

Anyway, stay tuned for pics!

#64267
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Thanks for the positive feedback guys. I’m going in for the third session this Friday. After there is some color in it, I’ll take new photos.

In the meantime, the tattoo has healed nicely…very little peeling, no scabbing and hardly any loss of ink.

S/F

#63948
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Sherav;39563 wrote:
Hi Jarhead

I have been following the trend with interest as I visit Israel quite frequently and was quite suprised at the increase of ‘open tattooing’ from the 90’s to present.

It has always existed but tended to be an underground thing and was very much considered the ‘western curse’.

That said as you know the Hasidim (all sects) will not tolerate the issue of tattooing or piercings (even ears) based on

Leviticus 19:28 : “Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.” Many people take this to refer to piercings (“cuttings in your flesh”) and tattoos (“print any marks upon you”)

I think it started with the argument that if a Jew died (especially if killed whilst in the IDF) would they be given a Jewish burial? There was a couple of cases where this was challenged and a notable scholar and Rabbi Jeffrey Wolfson Goldwasser pointed out that a Jew can be buried with tattoos in an orthodox cemetary as long as they repent their sins before G-d.

Then there was the large influx of Saphardic and Russian Jews many of whom have tattoos all though many draw the line at having tattoos that could be considered iconic or in memory of the dead.

One of the main arguments was that it wa not the tattoo itself that was offensive to G-d but the ritual practice that was often associated with early scarification or tattooing. This was often alongside pagan or spirit worship.

With modern day tattooing techniques this often removes this base and many ‘modern Jews’ will argue it is not that long ago that women were allowed to get their ears pierced and still be considered modest. So tattooing is a step further along this line.

Many of the more reformed Rabbis have realised that in order for Israel to continue to exist in these times that many of the older traditions have to be reconsidered and more flexibility given to keep the younger Israelis from emigrating to the USA and the rest of the world.

I also think that many Jews who do have tattoos (including myself) wanted to show the world that even when others try to use a negative practice (tattooing numbers on ppl) it can be shown to be a thing of beauty and defiance.

Personally I love nothing better than sticking my Lion Of Judah in some Neo-Nazi’s face and laughing at their shit and tacky swastikas and saying ‘hey dickhead – this is a real tattoo and gues what a Jew is wearing it!’ 😀

All of that said tattooing is still in the very minor percentage of the israeli population. i reckon it will in 20-30 years become more accessible and open.

Thanks for your feedback…very interesting stuff.

#63840
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This has turned into quite an interesting thread. There are a couple of issues here that are interesting. The first one being age. The second one being the phenomenon of Jews getting inked in Israel. My mother, a German Jew and Holocaust survivor, raised me to never get tattoos. According to her, it was against the Jewish religion. Unfortunately for her, I was raised in Texas and joined the Marine Corps making me quite the “non-traditional” Jewish boy. So not being religious, I began getting inked. However, not until much later in life. I thought about what I wanted on my body for years before actually doing it. I have to wonder, at 16 and 17, where the hell are your parents? What role did they play, if any, in your decision to get inked? As parents, part of the job is to steer children in the right direction until they are independent and capable of making the right, wise decisions.

So anyway, I find myself agreeing with Knighthawk. At 16, you’re still in the sandbox, and you can’t fathom that there will be a time when you want to leave the box and no longer play in the sand. Its not just your body that is going to grow, its your mind and soul as well. 10 years from now, there is a chance that you may look in the mirror and say, “What the F@ck was I thinking?” This is a possibility that probably seems totally foreign to you, but I guess we’ll just have to wait 10 years to find out how it all turns out.

The other issue, Jews and tattoos…my wife is Israeli and her and her cousins are all inked. These are beautiful Israeli women with substantial exposed tattoos. What is going on in Israel that apparently has turned tattooing into a very common and acceptable form of self-expression? When did this start to happen? My mother, although not happy about her inked son, has found scholarly articles written by respected Rabbi who acknowledge that there is nothing wrong with body art and that it is not against the laws of Judiasm. This has given her some peace of mind, but I’m still surprised that it appears to be so commonplace in the “Holy land”. Any feedback on this would be appreciated.

As a general matter, tattooing has become much less taboo here in the States. Everywhere I go, I see people with ink. This is good…and bad…for me, tattooing is spiritual. Its a committment and each one of my pieces has significance. Its as if they tell a story of my life. So many people these days get inked because its “cool”…I’m glad the process is painful…sometimes I wish it was more painful. This keeps the less committed away, and helps keep it a little sacred. At least for some of us.

S/F

#63774
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Look at the bright side…when you decide to get it removed, it will be cheap and relatively painless…:(

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