have played with the design a little more, will worry about the black/shaded background later….. i hate not knowing how long it takes to do the tattoo. so many places vary with times so much! but yea, i reakon something like this with a scroll wrapped aropund the roses.

wow is weird to see it so large as i can only print it so large then it looses too much quality…. looks great!

thanks for the replys.

will be going to my localish one tomorrow to see what they say. had a little one done on my shoulder 10+ years ago, always wished it was larger! but cant remember how long that one took etc. did email the design to a couple of people in my area, quotes from £150 to £400 have come up! i wont pay the most expensive purely on the basis that i dont agree with the ‘more you pay the better it is’ that some people seem to go by in here.

thanks, quite constructive. i dont expect everyone to like it and i wasnt looking to be slagged off for it.