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I gave my artist a concept, and then I let him run with it. When he was done outlining, he asked me about color, and I told him it was his art so do whatever he felt.
And on my cover, the artist made a decision that I hadn’t thought of, and I let him run with it.
As others have said, the key is to do your research and find the right artist – a good one.
@yodaddynukka 128503 wrote:
Metalman is a true success story. Yeah he got bashed a little bit in the beginning but he also listened, stuck around and now he gets it.
Thanks. I have come a long way. I’m glad I was “bashed” here and on the other forum. It taught me a lot about the industry forcing me to research and do my homework, and I saw far beyond my initial impression of a bunch of “who do they think they are people” on the internet. I had the thick skin and I listened.
I may not have the best tattoos around, but compared to a large amount of what I see on the street, I’d say my choice of Gunnar doing my original piece and cover up was a very good one, and I really am proud of the ink I have. I’ll never look back, and when I get the itch down the road, I will search hard and travel if need be to get the work done (Gunnar was a 1,500 mile round trip twice, and well worth it).
@buttwheat 128494 wrote:
They are also very well done tattoos.
For future reference it is black and grey not black and white.
I’m really not trying to bust your balls I just think there is way to much talent out there for people to walk around with mediocre tattoos. If you stick around we can help make your next tattoo a kick ass tattoo.
Trust me on the sticking around part.
Have thick skin, listen and learn. My first “Oh My God” tattoo that I thought was excellent has since been covered by an Artist. I listened, started to research, and I feel I truly became part of the tattoo community. Some may consider me a snob or stuck up, but I learned what it’s about to get permanent art on my body (and let’s not talk about laser removal as a way out).
I left decent sized deposit for Gunnar. He only books a few months out, so the wait wasn’t long.
To the O.P. I chuckled at the back and forths regarding your reluctance to give out an artists name. I side with Wardy on this one. Any respectable tattoo artist wants his/her name spread. That gives others a chance to browse that persons portfolio, and potentially get work done from that person. I won’t use the word childish as I heard previously in this thread, but in this case whether you think so or not you are doing this artist an injustice buy not helping that person build their business, all for a “whatever” reason as to not giving out a name. Just my .02.
@Wardy 121865 wrote:
What is it?
Boston Bruins logo (NHL team from Boston). The black dripping is not part of the logo – that I’m curious as to it’s meaning. If it’s “I bleed Black & Gold”, then I would think the dripping would be red. BTW, I’m from Boston.
You should change your name to Walking Art Gallery. Really sweet work you have.
Opeth – Ghost of Perdition
Heathen – Fade Away
Grip Inc – Hostage to Heaven
Meshuggah – Future Breed Machine
The Tea Party – Fire in the Head
And a few “older” tunes:
Emerson Lake & Palmer – Karn Evil 9
Deep Purple – Rat Bat Blue
I have way too many songs I consider excellent, so this is truly a very short list.
I don’t want to sound like an a-hole, but just by admitting you’re scratching is the type of thing that really hurts the reputation of this industry. There are many great artists out there who have taken the time and expense to learn their craft in the proper way. #1, as Sam-I-Am stated, you need to become an apprentice and learn from a real tattoo artist. Just because you want to become a tattoo artist doesn’t mean you should just jump in with an eBay machine and pretend. For one, you will never be taught the ins and outs of tattooing, and if scratching history holds true with you, you will be putting out inferior work on unkowing and naive people who actually think they are getting something of quality.
Just my .02.
Happy New Year
Personally I am not a fan of lettering in tattoos, but that’s just me.
From what I’ve learned about the tattoo industry, I give the same response to every singly “I need help on an idea” question regarding getting a tattoo.
Step 1: Come up with a “concept”, not necessarily exactly what you think you want, but just the idea behind it.
Step 2: Research and search out an artist, not a tattoo shop. It takes time, and there are variables like your budget and your ability to travel. Look at portfolios and come up with the person you think can pull it off.
Step 3: Go to the artist with your idea. From there, let the artist do their thing. Let him/her do the sketch, and let him/her come up with the color pallette.
If you want something solid, I personally don’t see any other way to approach it. Don’t put any constraints on the artist, meaning don’t micro manage the process. You’ll have a chance to look at the sketch and make tweaks. Obviously you have input into the big picture. But at the end of the day you are hiring an artist to ink canvas, and you’re the canvas. Twice now I’ve taken this approach and twice now the final product has far exceeded my expectations going in.
@Dipland 121594 wrote:
I like how he subtly removed some of the sharp lines in the eagle. The wings extensions and white neck transition also look good. The smoother muted colors look much better. I also like the color contrast between the blue sky and golden desert.
I recall my experience with him, and was actually surprised that you did not comment on his heavy hand on your last visit. He is a great guy AND artist. He is only about a 3 hour drive from me, so I expect to see him sometime in 2013 for some background/filler work.
Question – What is your wife’s next tattoo plan? 🙂
He wanted to work within the framework of the original eagle, and his choice of color pallette was excellent. It pops without being bright, and the eagle really stands out now – a great focal point.
I guess I should have equated my pain with a “heavy hand”. But having only experienced two artists, no real comparison. The original eagle only took 2.5 hours not with Gunnar. This rework was 4.5+ hours and my one two months ago was 7 hours, so I was equating pain to time spent under the needle.
Haha on my wife. She has stated ABSOLUTELY no second tattoo, but in the end of that conversation she never really closed the door. Nor have I.
The before/after:
@yodaddynukka 121573 wrote:
Wow the eagle looks like a totally different eagle!
That’s what surprised me the most. He really fixed it up, giving it wings and a more proper body. And as I said, I went in thinking the eagle itself would come out looking the same. I’m happily wrong.
Mines broken
Got my first tattoo a year and a half ago. I thought it was the shit….the best eagle ever. I had my touching story to go along with it. It just felt good to me, and I dumped the story on the forum. So I think I know where you’re coming from.
Fast forward the next 1.5 years. After going through the wringer with the feedback I got with me spewing my love for my first tattoo, mostly on the “other” forum, I hung in there. I started to listen to what others were saying. I started to research because I always planned to have two tattoos. It’s not that I didn’t research and study up before my first tattoo, but it became more focused. Other people here had their own tattoo stories to tell. Others told about some of their less than stellar tattoos. I took it all in, and went about my 2nd tattoo in a totally different way than my 1st. I searched out an artist – took over a year. Finally landed one of my top choices, Gunnar. So in October I travelled from MA to OH to sit in Gunnar’s chair for 7 hours. I won’t say my second tattoo is the best ever, but I damn sure will say it is excellent without any hesitation. And I know from the feedback I get in real life that it is excellent.
So maybe the conversation in typed words slightly derailed itself. But inside there’s a message that maybe you haven’t figured out yet. I know it took me some time to grasp it, but once I did it proved to be the best thing I ever did for my 2nd tattoo. And now in a week I’m going back to Gunnar so he can add to my eagle and make it something special.