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The only way for you to find out is to go and get a tattoo
Cheers,
Marcus
Okay thanks.
Nice tattoo.
I’m going to go for some sort of scroll thing with text in it.
Nobody can help you design a memorial tattoo for you with out any info from you. Just find something that was special between you and this person and that’s a great start for ideas.
I want the text ‘In loving memory of then under it Gradma but I don’t know the type of tattoo that will be good remembering type?
I have found from my own studies that tattooing is much more sociably acceptable in the USA and Canada than in the UK. I think a lot of it is we have a ‘small island’ attitude to a lot of things and it takes a long time to shift it.
Many UK still think in terms of tattooing being for the 1. Working Classes 2. Rock Stars/Footballers/People with too much money to have worries about it.
I am not saying I agree with this but that is generally how a lot of employers still think. It is relaxing but still very much taboo for many.
@TL The other key issue is what you have done on your hands.
If it is an artistic piece over love/hate ppl may see it as less threatening.
Take Care
Matthew
Yes agree about USA and Canada opposed to UK besides a facial tattoo or all your neck done which I guess will always be taboo forever more than likely not a little star but you know proper facial ones.
Erm, will having most of your arms still be a problem for jobs?
Also on the hands, I’ve seen some fancy ‘LOVE’ like the O being a love heart but not HATE, I see the LOVE/HATE quite alot on guys of all ages, seen some lad about 20 with it but it didn’t look like smart looking if you know what I mean, is this like a thug tattoo that people will judge you on or what? What will most people think socially will this tattoo?
I’m wanting my arms and chest done will that cause me any problems?
Yeah celebs have tattoos but I know it’s risen in the last 50 years tattoos but visible ones still hold taboo I’m guessing?
No there is no recorded Aryan Brotherhood in the UK and the White Power movement is not a shadow of that of the USA or say Germany/Italy.
We do have small groups such as Combat 18 but the National Front dissolved into the British Nationalist Party and the English Defence League.
All this said we are talking of a skin head culture in the hundreds not thousands it simply is not fashionable anymore and hasn’t been since around 1984-5.
@ TL
Sounds like your stepdad has done some time and prob why he doesn’t want to speak about it. Swallows are an indicator of doing time as is cobwebs on elbows and face.
Crosses and such are also done in prison because they are simple to do with minimum equipment and stick the fingers up at the establishment.
The key thing is how your step dad is now not what he may have done.
Take Care
Matthew
Okay thanks very much just I was reading up on ‘Prison tattoos of UK’ and the likes and found swallows, cobwebs, LOVE and HATE, the dots on knuckles none on the cross.
Do you think simply he either did it as a ‘Skinhead’ you know I heard it meant like crucified by society which is why lots of Skinheads had them or just bored and did it for the sake of it with no meaning?
Yeah in prison kind of any visible tattoos are screw you law type of attitude just wondered if he it had any significant meaning.
I’m guessing he was a Skinhead and just got it there instead of his forehead?:confused:
Thanks for your help.
Will there always be a social stigma to some degree? I know in the past few decades more shops opening and stuff it’s not as taboo as it was but like anything still people will judge you different if you have them in visible areas? Initials on the back of necks and cheryl cole wannabe-tattoos on side of the hand are hidden yet in visible places which doesn’t really matter but stuff on the back of your hands, knuckles is they still stigma attached to it?
He’s from the UK not USA.
I take it you mean a simple line cross usually on the section between the thumb an forefinger or on the finger itself?
My step father (I am also UK) also had them (although not a skinhead) and it can have a number of meanings.
The orig skinhead movement in UK had roots in reggae and the cross was a symbol of unity and straight edge living (no heroin and standing up for yourself)
It can also mean that you have bled for your beliefs or a friend has been killed in the movement by another gang member.
It was sometimes used as a symbol to represent the fact that they had survived prison as part of the anti-establishment.
In rare cases it meant that a person had killed or stabbed another but tended to be added to by drops of blood. These were usually shown by tear drop tattoos though.
As the movement changed and splintered in the 70’s the cross was adopted as a white power symbol of aryan purity.
My step father had a mass of gang and prison tattoos and was often reluctant to talk about them and sometimes it is better to just let things alone 😉
Take Care
Matthew
Thank you very much, well he does kind of look a Skinhead… I think he has been to prisojn because he has swallows on his neck tattoos and this dotted line with ‘CUT HERE’ on it and I googled them and found it’s normally prison, could one cross mean going in and one cross coming out?
Seeing how I have had my hands and knuckles done now for all of 2011. I have got nothing but compliments and nice things said. I have received no people looking at me awkwardly as far as I have observed.
But yea I guess it depends on where you come from, I live in Hamilton Ontario, Canada and I notice a lot of Jobs in Burlington and so forth are very accepting and I’m talking good paying jobs with benefits, desk jobs.
Cheers,
Marcus
What are your tattoos of though? I’m guessing you live in a place where tattoos are very common? I think America is different to Britain.
It’s not a detailed cross it is like the ones of the film This is England? He does a shaved head but I know he has black friends so isn’t racist.