its not part of the sleeve, thats a whole other thing. im thinking of a background with his ladder co. truck. i think i will do the birth/passing dates and his name. i was gonna have it on my right bicep, but the back idea is a possiblity. i didnt really think of that.

i think i would do color because i have an idea for a sleeve that would probably be black and grey. i would want to have that contrast.