thats a difficult one actually. now i think about it i have no idea at all.

The complexity needs to be considered first also.

where are you planning to have it done?

and was it this one you meant to post as the image?

@orangesport I like it. Coloiur always looks good to accent tattoos

I like that second one. whats on the flames round the side? and where was it done?

Although it actually looks like really good shading… yes i would ask for the artist to do a touch up on that . it looks really good
Where was it done?

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you could always go with another tattoo the other way up. perhaps a dead tree or some other symbolic tree like tat that represents a mirror image of the original but with a different take on it. light vs dark..

Hi!

yep, my SO had her foot tattood and it was swollen and sore a few weeks after. its a touchy area for a lot of people.

If you are concerned at all though always see a doctor.

yep laser first would be my bet too. thats pretty big and thick black lines will be difficult to cover. laser works pretty well on black ink normally.

very cool pic. if done right the waves and other bits will wrap round and blend together very well. the birds can be used to add accents throughout where needed.

Sammy_inks on instagram is based in london i believe and is good at black and grey work

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Our gallery is not so hot at the moment. you could jusy try looking through some pinterest posts and see if something catches your eye.

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Its quite thick lines but at the same time plenty of space in between. the right artist would probably be able to incorporate a full sleeve into that without to much trouble.

any ideas on what kind of sleeve or theme you wanted to go for?

christ he looks a mess at the moment

Wasnt it johhny depp who changed Winona forever to Wino forever as well.

Do you reckon he specifically gets tattoos he can change later if he falls out with them??

You can always try soem laser treatment to faded the black tribal a little before going with the rest of it

What does it look like now?  you can upload photos at http://www.thetattooforum.com/members/me/albums/

And where in the UK are you based? we can help more if we know where to send you.