thanks for your input, but untimatly i am the customer and i no what i am looking for, that is why i asked this question i I no alot of people in buisness that try and cut cost by useing cheaper products to increase there profit, So i am not going to leave that choice up to anyone but myself that is why im asking around and doing research on different kinds of ink i have the right to no about the quality of ink that is being put in my body . So it looks like this sight was the wrong place to ask a simple question have a good day